How Close Are We To World War III?
President-elect Donald Trump will inherit a far more unstable world than the one he left President Joe Biden just four years ago. The war between Russia and Ukraine continues to grind on, escalating at the behest of the Biden administration. The situation in the Middle East, with the fall of the Assad government in Syria, only becomes more precarious by the day.
While the experts in Washington will never say weโre already in the midst of World War III, these conflicts span two continents and are deeply intertwined. But if World War III does come, these years will be remembered as its opening phase. This week on โThe Signal Sitdown,โ I discuss these conflicts and more with Kelley Vlahos, editorial director at Responsible Statecraft.
โOnce you make your adversary the devil, itโs hard to say, โWell, letโs sit down and talk with the devil,โโ Vlahos said of the continuation of the Ukraine war, despite signs that itโs only a matter of time before the Ukrainians will have to negotiate a peace with Russia. โThatโs something that Biden and NATO did to themselves by making this an existential crisis, with the future of democracy of the whole, entire world at stake.โ
But โitโs not just Bidenโ and his administration, Vlahos told me. โAll of these European capitals are hell-bent on continuing this war, and under the rubric of NATO.โ
Vlahos bemoaned that โEuropean establishments would love to see the Ukraine war fought to the last Ukrainian.โ
Though American conservatives are prone to attack the Establishment in Washington, โanybody that you talk to will tell you that the establishments over there are worse than they are here,โ Vlahos said. โTheyโre monochrome. They donโt allow for dissent. You know, everything is an ivory tower. Theyโre moving people around like chess pieces in Ukraine.โ
โWe have a blob here in Washington; you have a blob there in Brussels,โ Vlahos told me.
The blob, Vlahos said, is โa self-licking ice cream cone.โ And whether itโs increased involvement in Ukraine or Syria, there is โthis strange Borg logic in Washington, that any time that we talk about retrenching or taking back or cutting a budget, that means a loss of power.โ
โThatโs a bad thing,โ she said of the blobโs justification to get involved in foreign conflicts. Nevertheless, โeverybody just goes rushing to battle stations to keep the troops there, and theyโll use any excuse to keep them there.โ
โAnd so what have we done to our own national security?โ Vlahos asked rhetorically. โWe canโt make missiles as fast as weโre giving them away. Thereโs plenty of money that weโre giving to defense contractors, and they got all the contracts, but a lot of these things wonโt be ready for another five, 10 years to replenish what weโve given away.โ
โAt a pure national interest angle,โ Vlahos continued, โwe need to stop these wars, because weโre making ourselves vulnerable in the effort to try to change the world and fix things overseas, that for many Americans, they donโt know what the connection is.โ
โAs much as Trump has a lot of authority right now, and has basically put on notice where we standโand [Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy does recognize thatโI think there is a serious fight ahead, because NATO is not going to give up,โ she said. โTheyโre not about to sort of retrench because Donald Trump says they got to end the war.โ
Nevertheless, Vlahos has hope that it all โmight come crashing downโ on the blob at some point.
โThe people are going to be the ones that rise up and say, โEnough is enough. We canโt do anymore. We have to start looking back inward.โโ