4 Takeaways From Second House Hearing on Trump Assassination Attempt
House Homeland Security Chairman Mark Green, R-N.C., expected to get answers Tuesday from top Biden administration officials about security failures before the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump.
Those officials didnโt show up.
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle resigned earlier in the day. But Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas and FBI Director Christopher Wray didnโt give a reason for not appearing at the House hearing. (The Secret Service is part of the Department of Homeland Security.)
โWe also expect to hear answers to questions about the shooterโs motivation and what the FBI has found in its investigation, including information collected from the shooterโs various devices,โ Green said. โUnfortunately and unacceptably, [Mayorkas and Wray] have refused to appear before the committee here today.โ
Instead, Col. Christopher L. Paris, commissioner of the Pennsylvania State Police, answered most of the committeeโs questions.
Patrick Yoes, national president of the Fraternal Order of Police, also testified before the committee.
Here are takeaways from the second congressional hearing investigating the attempted assassination of Trump, held 10 days after the July 13 shooting at a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, when the gunmanโs bullets grazed Trumpโs right ear, killed one attendee, and wounded two others.
1. Dismissing โSloped Roofโ Excuse
Paris, head of the Pennsylvania State Police, dismissed the notion that the rooftop used by 20-year-old shooter Thomas Matthew Crooks had a dangerous slope and was too unsafe for Secret Service agents to secure.
In an interview with ABC News before her resignation, Cheatle said: โThat building in particular has a sloped roof at its highest point. And so, you know, thereโs a safety factor that would be considered there, that we wouldnโt want to put somebody up on a sloped roof.โ
Green asked: โThe slope of the roof, would that have prevented a sniper from being up there?โ
Paris replied: โI donโt believe so, sir.โ
Later in the hearing, Rep. Michael Guest, R-Miss., brought up the question about the roof.
โYou didnโt go on the roof, but you viewed the roof. Is that correct?โ Guest asked.
โYes,โ Paris replied.
โThe Secret Service director prior to her resignation said she did not put anybody on the roof because it had a sloped roof that would have created a safety concern,โ Guest said.
He noted that his colleague, Rep. Carlos Gimenez, R-Fla., is 70 years old and yet climbed the roof during a visit to the shooting site Monday.
โDo you agree with the assessment of the former Secret Service director that the roof was so sloped that it created safety concerns?โ Guest asked.
Paris again said, โI canโt agree with that assessment, sir.โ
2. Plea to โReconsiderโ Bill Denying Protection to Trump
Green asked the committeeโs ranking member, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., to withdraw his bill pulling Secret Service protection from Trump should the former president be sentenced to prison.
โI have to urge the ranking member to reconsider his legislation that was clearly intended to strip Secret Service protection from President Trump,โ Green said during opening remarks.
โWhile I understand the legislation would not have applied in this instance, it was clear to everyone that it was directed toward the former president,โ the committee chairman added. โWe all introduce messaging bills. This one should be withdrawn.โ
But later in the hearing, Thompson defended his legislation, saying that โthe bill doesnโt mention former President Trump.โ
In April, after Trump had been indicted in four separate criminal cases but before he was convicted of 34 felonies in the โhush moneyโ trial in New York, Thompson introduced a bill that he called the Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable Former Protectees Act, which the Mississippi Democrat also dubbed the DISGRACED Former Protectees Act.
If passed and designed into law by President Joe Biden, the legislation would terminate Secret Service protection for someone who has been sentenced to prison following conviction for a federal or state felony.
โYou have to be a convicted felon and sentenced. At the time the bill was filed, nobody who was a protectee was a convicted felon,โ Thompson said during the hearing. โThose who are lawyers here know that once you are a convicted felon and sentenced, you are remanded to the custody of that particular law enforcement agency for custody. I think it is an anomaly to say the Secret Service would have to protect a felon in jail, a convicted felon.โ
Thatโs not the point, Green retorted, noting that financier and convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein died in prison.
โPrison isnโt necessarily a safer place,โ Green said. โYou can ask Mr. Epsteinโs family about that. So, to suggest [Trump would] have the security necessary in a prison environment is not an accurate statement.โ
Green added: โItโs more about what weโre doing and what weโre saying at certain times that generates the attitude in our society.โ
3. โMet or Exceeded All of Our Expectationsโ
Rep. Anthony DโEspostio, R-N.Y., asked Paris to assess local law enforcement at the Trump rally July 13, as opposed to the Secret Service.
โWhat do you say to those that are saying local law enforcement failed to provide adequate security at this rally?โ DโEspostio asked.
โItโs my belief as I sit here, based on all the information that I have, that we met or exceeded all of our expectations for that event,โ Paris replied. โAm I saying the event was a success? Obviously, it was not. Our hearts go out to those affected.โ
Yoes, national head of the Fraternal Order of Police, stressed the importance of local law enforcement to back up federal law enforcement.
โI would echo the fact that local law enforcement plays a huge role and must,โ Yoes said. โI donโt think the federal agencies have the ability to have this event without a coordinated effort with local law enforcement.โ
Earlier in the hearing, Paris explained the role of the Pennsylvania State Police the day of the assassination attempt was to โsupply the Secret Service with personnel and assets that they requested.โ
This involved 32 state police officers with two main responsibilities, a motorcade operation for the Secret Serviceโs transportation of Trump and manning and staffing security posts inside the perimeter.
โVery early after the shooting, I had a conversation with the FBI, the responsible investigating agency of the assassination of a former president under federal law,โ Paris said.
He said Pennsylvania State Police are โcurrently conducting a criminal investigation parallel to and in concert with the FBI to identify any and all parties criminally culpable under Pennsylvania state law for the homicide and for the attempted homicides.โ
4. Nagging Questions on Timeline
Later in the hearing, Gimenez asked about the timeline after law enforcement had flagged the shooter as a suspicious person on the grounds of the rally.
โFrom my understanding of the timeline, itโs about 20 minutes before the president came out; was that information relayed to the Secret Service?โ the Florida Republican asked.
โI believe that it was,โ Paris said.
โWas that relayed to the Secret Service, the team that surrounds the president himself?โ Gimenez specified.
โI canโt answer that,โ Paris said.
โIf it wasnโt, thatโs another big mess-up,โ the congressman said.
Gimenez followed up by asking and answering a rhetorical question: โWho developed a plan to protect the outside of the perimeter? Thereโs only one agency, thatโs the United States Secret Service.โ